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Re: Emby Integration

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 11:29
by Montoya
To add to that, my second item I miss most in the Emby Client Service:

- Access to Mixed Content Emby libraries
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1270

Personally I don't have the need to let the Emby Client Service populate my MrMC databases with content from my local Emby server. But I can fully understand, for people who have also access to external Emby servers, that this is a welcome feature to have, to speed up the user experience, browsing Emby libraries.

Re: Emby Integration

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 11:52
by Everbrave
Montoya wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 11:29
To add to that, my second item I miss most in the Emby Client Service:

- Access to Mixed Content Emby libraries
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1270

Personally I don't have the need to let the Emby Client Service populate my MrMC databases with content from my local Emby server. But I can fully understand, for people who have also access to external Emby servers, that this is a welcome feature to have, to speed up the user experience, browsing Emby libraries.
Agreed!

Re: Emby Integration

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 12:27
by amet
We agreed long time ago that there will be no database pollution from other services, so think of emby being a service like plex is and mrmc being a front end player, no interaction with internal mrmc database.

Agreed that some improvements are needed and those are scheduled for upcoming versions

Re: Emby Integration

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 13:24
by Everbrave
amet wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 12:27
We agreed long time ago that there will be no database pollution from other services, so think of emby being a service like plex is and mrmc being a front end player, no interaction with internal mrmc database.
I can understand and I guess this is fine for most of Emby users. After all, Emby own tvOS client will soon abandon the local player and adopt a mpv-core (already in the iOS version). So, more refined Emby features are expected to be covered there.
Agreed that some improvements are needed and those are scheduled for upcoming versions
That is cool; it will increase the lead MrMC already has over all other apps with respect to client integration.

My current use case is still to let Plex Extension open at start-up; for Emby, I use Kodi (with Embuary) or Emby tvOS client. MrMC local DB is rarely used because all metadata are either on Plex or Emby server (actually on both).
My family uses infuse because they are used to it and it is visually more appealing to them :)

I personally hope to use exclusively MrMC in the near future since it possesses the best player on tvOS.

Re: Emby Integration

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 14:53
by Montoya
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Everbrave wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 13:24
... After all, Emby own tvOS client will soon abandon the local player and adopt a mpv-core (already in the iOS version).
Active development for the Apple TV player core change was announced in last April already and first Testflight of Emby Apple TV app with MPV core is just announced, to be scheduled for TF release within 10 days, so fingers crossed.
Everbrave wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 13:24
So, more refined Emby features are expected to be covered there.
To be honest, I don't expect major changes for the Emby Apple TV client, besides the player core change. Emby on the Apple TV has always been Emby's stepchild, but I hope they surprise us ;)

I have seen that they lost quite a few of active and valuable Testflight participants already, when you consider the last 8 months, due to the limitations the Emby Apple TV client had, compared to other platforms. The damn thing mostly transcoded content on server, when subtitles where involved or with Live TV or when online content was streamed, that Emby doesn't allow to direct play due to "App store rules" .....

So glad that MrMC was around to bypass all that crap on the Apple TV :D

Re: Emby Integration

Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 15:09
by Everbrave
Montoya wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 14:53
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Everbrave wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 13:24
... After all, Emby own tvOS client will soon abandon the local player and adopt a mpv-core (already in the iOS version).
Active development for the Apple TV player core change was announced in last April already and first Testflight of Emby Apple TV app with MPV core is just announced, to be scheduled for TF release within 10 days, so fingers crossed.
Everbrave wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 13:24
So, more refined Emby features are expected to be covered there.
To be honest, I don't expect major changes for the Emby Apple TV client, besides the player core change. Emby on the Apple TV has always been Emby's stepchild, but I hope they surprise us ;)

I have seen that they lost quite a few of active and valuable Testflight participants already, when you consider the last 8 months, due to the limitations the Emby Apple TV client had, compared to other platforms. The damn thing mostly transcoded content on server, when subtitles where involved or with Live TV or when online content was streamed, that Emby doesn't allow to direct play due to "App store rules" .....

So glad that MrMC was around to bypass all that crap on the Apple TV :D
same story with Plex :)
However, an own client obliges, so we can expect it to be richer, feature wise, with collections, user switching, etc.
But in my experience, Emby client on tvOS was better then Plex client, i.e. direct playing/streaming more files and transcoding less. I'm participating in iOS and tvOS TF so, we shall see ;)

Of course, MrMC is a big help but the UI and support isn't here yet. I hope the stone started rolling and we can expect more Emby support in the next versions soon.